For the record, I've listed both the article Wikipedia:Wikipedia is failing and the rebuttal on AFD as divisive and stupid. yes, I know it seems like another battle and I'm going off the rails, but really, this is all getting very stupid. Ever since this trend towards writing essays to push POV and attempt to make defacto policy, the whole site is getting much more unfriendly and unproductive. Essays are a great way of a. getting around consensus, and b. push your sole POV on others. - Ta bu shi da yu 08:54, 19 February 2007 (UTC)