Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2010-01-25/BLP madness

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RFC again: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

A graph of current opinion can be found here: User:Peter cohen/BLP RFC stats. The two opposing views which have the most support is:

  1. Jehochman, who currently wants deletion policy to be more strict, with 139 people supporting, and
  2. Collect, who feels existing policy is satisfactory, has 51 editors supporting.

Ikip 04:05, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

True, see my comments (hidden) on how the media feels about what is happening at wikipedia: At the Durova it is not pretty. These 7 journalists and one PHD dissertation are the canary in the coalmine about how many wikipedians are treating new editors. Ikip 04:27, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is there nothing happening on Wikipedia that is not somehow resultant of editors picking on newbies? Give me a break. The reason BLPs remain unsourced for months, if not years, is because many of them are about people who are not well-known to the general pupulation, many people are generally apathetic (or not knowledgable) about doing sourcing work, and because lots of people are basically lazy. It's easy to write something that you know is true and leave it than it is to go dig up the book where you read it and create a proper citation. The vast majority of newbies aren't even familiar with WP:RS, much less our citation styles. Please stop pushing this agenda everywhere. <>Multi‑Xfer<> (talk) 06:02, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am a relatively new editor and a significant problem I have in following the chain of events in this news article is the extensive reliance on abbreviations, jargon and code words that only the more experienced members of the editor community can easily follow. For example: ANI, PROD, RfC, CSD, AN, ArbCom. This article sounds like a Pentagon briefing, it is not English, per se. It would be more "open" and "transparent" for the community, especially for newer members, if the prose used in the "newspaper" used common vocabulary and complete words, that anyone could understand. Thanks for listening. --Mdukas (talk) 06:41, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
FYI:
The Wikipedia:Glossary has more. — Athaenara 07:07, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Athaenara, thank you. I wish the author of the article could have simply done the same thing. We don't all speak or understand "wiki". thx. --Mdukas (talk) 01:32, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Happy to help! — Athaenara 11:04, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Two Years here and still a novice I admit, but my entire two years work has now all been deleted and and a huge gap in the progression of digital technologies now exists in wikipedia through a flawed AfD process. No wonder Wiki is losing good editors, I know I wont be spending time on it anymore when all I'm trying to do is to accurately make an article and reference it properly. Bring on the multitude of Biographies for Horses that win minor horseraces!! I'm sure my kids would really like to know about Mr Ed than living pioneers and inventors! --Cafejunkie (talk) 17:06, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]