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WP:MOS says that linking from within the quote should be avoided "as much as possible". However, looking at the present version of the article I don't see a link to NAMBLA at all, and I imagine that even among Americans there are many who have absolutely no idea what that acronym actually refers to, so a link is appropriate. There will be no difference if we link to it inside or outside the quote so far as Google's rankings are concerned. And whatever their problem is, I doubt that one link in our article is what is to blame for it.

We should not be rearranging articles trying to decide on search rank. It's not our problem, and even if it were, maybe a lot of people actually search Google for Carson NAMBLA because they want to see this quote and use it for some purpose (whether anti gay marriage or anti Carson or whatever, none of our business). Or maybe there are just a lot of news sites and opinion pieces that talk about Carson and NAMBLA within a headline --- your own included!

Let's not focus on trying to guess what our article might make happen, but instead focus on having it be as informative as possible. He said this thing, it had a certain resonance in a certain segment of society, history needs to know about it. Wnt (talk) 18:26, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Regarding the story about The world's Wikipedia gaps, as a contributor to the Wikipedia version in Norwegian Bokmål/Riksmål I don't think machine translation is the way, its just not good enough. The problem is our biggest competitor: The English language Wikipedia. A well-known Norwegian journalist said some years ago that media use Wikipedia all the time, the English language version, that is. Why someone would contribute to the version in Norwegian Bokmål/Riksmål was beyond his understanding.
What we need to do, both the WMF and local chapters is to highlight the inequality of Wikipedia. After all its not that bad in Europe, quite a few are able to read some English. But in places like Sri Lanka, where the local languages are next to non-existent on Wikipedia, it means that the local elites have all they need, while the rest is as bad off as ever. Ulflarsen (talk) 20:53, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with keeping quotes free of hyperlinks is that frequently without them the reader would be clueless as to what the quoted speaker is talking about. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:15, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hawkeye7 I agree. I forget how I learned I'm not supposed to hyperlink in quotes, but there was one I included in an article and I knew people would be likely to want to learn the definition or significance of some term that was used. I didn't think there was any other way. While I've forgotten exact details, I'm pretty sure the quote would have been hard to understand without the hyperlink.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:43, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]