being pushed into the "great women" moldparticularly helped me see useful parallels between issues I'm pretty well acquainted with in academic research, but had only vaguely felt but not really named as far as Wikipedia is concerned. As a fairly frequent participant in WiR editathons, I've often thought about the fact that as notability is currently conceptualized, we're only going to get as far with biographies as available sources will take us--and that definitely will not be to parity. I generally push that thought out of my mind, figuring I'll worry about it when I run out of sourceable but as yet-unwritten biographies--i.e. no time soon! But you make a great case for thinking about additional routes to getting at the under-described roles women have played in society, drawing on techniques of organizational history, history-from-below, and other methods. Thanks so much for the food for thought! Innisfree987 (talk) 03:26, 28 May 2018 (UTC)