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In regards to the "Students still have a better opinion of Wikipedia than teachers" title: some of us, me for instance, will wonder whether it means that they have (A) a better opinion of Wikipedia than teachers have or (B) a better opinion of Wikipedia than they have of teachers. – Athaenara 21:52, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's unambiguous in the sense that (B) would require an "of" in front of "teachers" to be grammatically correct. But yeah, maybe there exists a wording that is clearer but still concise. Regards, HaeB (talk) 06:11, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I had initially parsed it as (B) and had to read the actual paper to see that it meant (A)! +1 @Athaenara:! Perhaps "Students still have a better opinion of Wikipedia than teachers do" would fix it? Shyamal (talk) 10:57, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I have changed it to that wording. Regard, HaeB (talk) 20:16, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I question the usefulness of so-called "open education" where students are not taught truly helpful values such as respecting themselves, loving freedom and refusing to use loaded language which does not communicate the right ideas. For example, rather than saying "open content", using a word which communicates no positive value ("open", not communicating the actual issue, freedom), and a word which devalues works ("content"), why not say "libre media"? DesertPipeline (talk) 07:22, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]